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Why do hardcore PC users hate Mac.
I want to discuss this sensibly. I use both on a regular basis, so I feel inclined to talk about it.
Please give 3 legit reasons why Macs are not good. Discuss PC as well if you like. BUT try not to repeat anything...
1. Familiarity. Most PC users are comfortable with the interface and how it works. Some examples of things that aggravate PC users, often faulty are:
- The Start Menu.
- Right Clicking.
- Customization.
- Shortcuts.
- Compatability.
It is important to note that all of these exist in the mac world, it's just different.
2. Games. The selection of games for Macs is much smaller than that of a PC, and the performance of the ones that do exist are only moderately good. This is of course changing gradually with the Wine project and Crossover/Crossover Games. I also feel the NVidea cards will bring alot of oomph to the mac, but time will tell.
3. The big-headed mac users. I can definitely say that the Advertising for Macs is a bit inflated and exaggerates, but that's what advertising is for. People who know computers don't need an ad to tell them what to buy. To set a few things straight:
- Macs CAN and DO get viruses. The count is just FAR fewer for Macs than PCs.
- Macs are not simpler. At least not at a core level. Most of simplicity comes in the users preference.
- There may not be a programs equal on the Mac side. Some programs just won't work. Most do have some equivalent.
If you have intelligent comments, please post them here!
Please give 3 legit reasons why Macs are not good. Discuss PC as well if you like. BUT try not to repeat anything...
1. Familiarity. Most PC users are comfortable with the interface and how it works. Some examples of things that aggravate PC users, often faulty are:
- The Start Menu.
- Right Clicking.
- Customization.
- Shortcuts.
- Compatability.
It is important to note that all of these exist in the mac world, it's just different.
2. Games. The selection of games for Macs is much smaller than that of a PC, and the performance of the ones that do exist are only moderately good. This is of course changing gradually with the Wine project and Crossover/Crossover Games. I also feel the NVidea cards will bring alot of oomph to the mac, but time will tell.
3. The big-headed mac users. I can definitely say that the Advertising for Macs is a bit inflated and exaggerates, but that's what advertising is for. People who know computers don't need an ad to tell them what to buy. To set a few things straight:
- Macs CAN and DO get viruses. The count is just FAR fewer for Macs than PCs.
- Macs are not simpler. At least not at a core level. Most of simplicity comes in the users preference.
- There may not be a programs equal on the Mac side. Some programs just won't work. Most do have some equivalent.
If you have intelligent comments, please post them here!
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Permalink Reply by bader on -
first of all mac didn't give people a chance to try the mac operating system so if you wanna try it
you will have to buy a mac hardware to use the operating system (and that's why its more stable than windows) and its expensive (at list in my country )so no buddy is going to buy it just to have a chance to try it
its..... to...... risky
2nd. window is more popular because you can buy the operating system and install it on any kind of pc staring from a 200$ up to 10000$ pc so every buddy can own a pc ...right?
and you can enjoy building you pc :)
3rd. any program on the mac can be available on a pc and maybe more (like games and other stuff )
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Permalink Reply by JT on -
I am extremely well versed in Widows. Almost every time that I have touched a MAC I have made a few changes to it and then the user never likes what I have done. I have learned to stay away. When I see a MAC I take my 2 index fingers and make a cross (like they are the Devil or a Vampire) and maybe the machine will stay away from me...LOL
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Permalink Reply by Mad Max on -
I think a lot of people hate them because they had to work with OS 9 on machines made for schools, like the eMac. Whilst not "crap" it wasn't exactly the best, and OS 9 was truely buggy and craptacular so far as Mac OS's go. First impressions make a big impact, and most of the current generation of computer users will have had used those systems growing up.
OS X is a different beast however, it really is an excellent OS, and Apple refine it and keep on refining it with each update. It's a much more solid foundation than their previous OS's and it shows.
Most people will have grown up with Windows, myself included, and untill I actually saw and used a Mac properly I didn't know what all the fuss was about. Having used something other than Windows I began to see Windows for what it is, a stagnent old peice of crap that's poorly made and doesn't really progress. Any progression with Windows is generally done by 3rd parties who have nothing to do with Microsoft, they just use their platform to give users something better than the OS itself can give.
I very rarely edit video on my Windows machine for the simple fact that it SUCKS at handling it. It bogs down and freezes and sometimes even bluescreens whilst using Premiere Pro, and it's not exactly a slow system. I've seen people using old MacBooks editing full HD footage on hardware far far less capable than my own flying through the editing tasks with far fewer issues.
OS X is just so much better at resource management, it allows you to get far more out of your hardware and lets you do things faster and become more productive. This is why you rarely see anything but Macs in professional design studios, and the ones with PC's most likely wish to make enough money to replace them with Macs.
The main reason for Windows dominence in the "hardcore" world will most likely be gaming. There's just far more to choose from on Windows than OS X. I very rarely play games so it really doesn't bother me that I'd be losing such a large selection of the things to play if I used a Mac.
Lots of people prefer to build their own systems too, I do this myself for Windows, but this is more to do with the fact that most PC OEM's SUCK, they give you very poor quality hardware, in a poorly designed case with a poorly designed OS and jam pack the hard drive with useless crap you'll never use and just end up uninstalling on your first boot... that takes about 10 mins. The only OEM I trust is Apple.
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Permalink Reply by ModeratorAreLowLife on -
Mac is not for gamer. Games are always released after PC and some will never be released.
Mac is too expensive also.
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Permalink Reply by Mateus Augusto Lopes on -
I agree, but Macs are better in many things compared to Windows.
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Permalink Reply by Zune80 on -
Really? That's what they all say, but they never actually mention what those things are that Macs do better than Windows. How about some examples backed up with proof in documentation form where I can read all about this?
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Permalink Reply by gypkap on -
Macs have a decent core level operating system, BSD.
The Mac user interface, on the other hand, sucks. I'll start with all application menus stacked on each other at the top of the screen, the odd "special" buttons on the keyboard (clovers and apple logos), the mostly sealed computer so a user can't easily make changes to the hardware, limited commercial software, and so forth.
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Permalink Reply by Orgrath on -
To be fair tho, the clover and apple logo buttons are the equivalent of the windows key on every PC. User Interface is a preference, not a fact. Hardware is tested to work in a Mac, so expansion beyond ram is rarely necessary. Not sure what you mean by "limited commercial software" but there are few things you can do on a PC that you can't also do on a Mac.
As for the Games part, check out Crossover for Mac. (http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/)
and Crossover Games (http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/)
They offer help at a good price if gaming is needed.
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Permalink Reply by Kitty on -
Running games in a virtualized environment is like competing in the special olympics.
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Permalink Reply by Mad Max on
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Most commercial software is available for both formats, and in a professional sense the Mac way is generally the more popular one due to the better performance of the OS and how it allows you to use the hardware more for the applications instead of leaching it to make the OS run. It's been shown time and time again that OS X performs better on the same hardware than Windows does.
Macs have less software available to them, but the software that is there is generally of higher quality or just the same as on the Windows side. There's less crap for OS X than Windows. Someone once said "Crap software doesn't survive on the Mac" and it's true. There's fewer people to use it so it's a more competetive market, and if it's not up to snuff it dies off or gets improved to a point where it's accepted and of a good standard. That's one advantage of having a smaller user base.
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Permalink Reply by Mateus Augusto Lopes on
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Well, i'm not a gamer, so a Mac would be perfect for me, an i don't use the start menu, so i wouldn't miss it, and okay, there's virus, but much less, so i would go with mac.
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