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Cap & Trade, how it will hit Geeks the hardest.
Well, Today the House passed Cap & trade ---I call it Cap & Tax---
This is an aggressive plan that is supposed to curve the lie that is global warming, but this is the WORST possible thing that you could do in this economy --if it passes every thing it will go in to effect in 2012, which is probably when the economy MIGHT finally be getting better-
Here is what our idiot in chief said in November last year,
Obama: "What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more aggressive if not more aggresive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-power plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that green house gas that is being emitted.
-------And this is the other quote that should agravate every body out there----
Obama: When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"
Why the hell would ANY ONE want to do that to an economy, not only will every ones electricity rates go up, but EVERY THING will go up, business will either have to charge more for what ever they do or lay people off, or a combination there of to stay in business.
--Under this plan Natural Gas & Gasoline will also go WAY up, btu i do not have the EXACT statistics so i will post those @ a later time...But the electricity one is enough since you are using it right now to read this--
This bill is so rediculus, nothing like kicking the economy when it is down, or kicking it as it is getting back up....
---This is the END of MY take on it, here is what Rush had to say, wether or not you agree with him, read it w/ an open mind and decide for your self...I don't always agree with him, and if you always agree with some one you are not thinking--
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"Later today, the House of Representatives is slated to vote on the most convoluted attempt at economic central-planning this nation has ever attempted: cap and trade. The 1,200-plus page Waxman-Markey climate change legislation is nothing more than an energy tax in disguise that by 2035..." Think your children, and this is independent of any other market forces that are going to affect the prices of these items as a mental list here. This bill alone will raise gasoline prices by 58 percent by 2035. This bill alone, in addition to whatever increases there are in gasoline between now and then, this bill will raise natural gas prices by 55 percent by 2035. It will raise home heating oil prices by 56 percent, and electricity prices by 90 percent.
Your electricity bill, by 2035, is going to go up by 90 percent. If we didn't do this bill, I guarantee you your bill is not going to go up 90 percent between now and 2035. "Although proponents of the bill are pointing to grossly underestimated and incorrect costs, the reality is when all the tax impacts have been added up, the average per-family-of-four costs rise by $2,979 per year. In the year 2035 alone, the cost is $4,609," for a family of four, additional taxes on energy. Energy, of course, is how we move, how we get around, how we heat our homes, cool them, run our refrigerators. Basically energy is one of the building blocks of our advancing lifestyle. "And the costs per family for the whole energy tax aggregated from 2012 to 2035 are $71,493." In other words, the bill's slated to go into effect 2012, and if you add up all of these costs for a family of four from 2012 to 2035, you've got to come up with $71,493 that you otherwise wouldn't have to.
-Anubis
This is an aggressive plan that is supposed to curve the lie that is global warming, but this is the WORST possible thing that you could do in this economy --if it passes every thing it will go in to effect in 2012, which is probably when the economy MIGHT finally be getting better-
Here is what our idiot in chief said in November last year,
Obama: "What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more aggressive if not more aggresive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-power plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that green house gas that is being emitted.
-------And this is the other quote that should agravate every body out there----
Obama: When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"
Why the hell would ANY ONE want to do that to an economy, not only will every ones electricity rates go up, but EVERY THING will go up, business will either have to charge more for what ever they do or lay people off, or a combination there of to stay in business.
--Under this plan Natural Gas & Gasoline will also go WAY up, btu i do not have the EXACT statistics so i will post those @ a later time...But the electricity one is enough since you are using it right now to read this--
This bill is so rediculus, nothing like kicking the economy when it is down, or kicking it as it is getting back up....
---This is the END of MY take on it, here is what Rush had to say, wether or not you agree with him, read it w/ an open mind and decide for your self...I don't always agree with him, and if you always agree with some one you are not thinking--
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"Later today, the House of Representatives is slated to vote on the most convoluted attempt at economic central-planning this nation has ever attempted: cap and trade. The 1,200-plus page Waxman-Markey climate change legislation is nothing more than an energy tax in disguise that by 2035..." Think your children, and this is independent of any other market forces that are going to affect the prices of these items as a mental list here. This bill alone will raise gasoline prices by 58 percent by 2035. This bill alone, in addition to whatever increases there are in gasoline between now and then, this bill will raise natural gas prices by 55 percent by 2035. It will raise home heating oil prices by 56 percent, and electricity prices by 90 percent.
Your electricity bill, by 2035, is going to go up by 90 percent. If we didn't do this bill, I guarantee you your bill is not going to go up 90 percent between now and 2035. "Although proponents of the bill are pointing to grossly underestimated and incorrect costs, the reality is when all the tax impacts have been added up, the average per-family-of-four costs rise by $2,979 per year. In the year 2035 alone, the cost is $4,609," for a family of four, additional taxes on energy. Energy, of course, is how we move, how we get around, how we heat our homes, cool them, run our refrigerators. Basically energy is one of the building blocks of our advancing lifestyle. "And the costs per family for the whole energy tax aggregated from 2012 to 2035 are $71,493." In other words, the bill's slated to go into effect 2012, and if you add up all of these costs for a family of four from 2012 to 2035, you've got to come up with $71,493 that you otherwise wouldn't have to.
-Anubis
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Permalink Reply by Dilyn Corner on -
I'm so pissed. Apparently, no one cares.
Oh wait, that's right. ALMOST EVERYONE IN AMERICA CALLED THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND SAID VOTE NO.
Even 40 people in Obama's own party voted NO. Albeit a couple Republicans voted yes....
The only reason why it passed is because there were deals passed under the table by our so called leader and his little cronies *cough* Pelosi *cough*.
They can all just go away. They're liars, and I've lost all faith in the Democratic party. I am ashamed to call myself a Democrat now. I'm just gonna become Socialist... They are a disgrace to this party.
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Permalink Reply by Anubis on -
Wow, again, amen!
Again, you are a rarity, many in your party refuse to admit this stuff, join the conservative's, hope fully in 2012 we actually have a real republican runing and not a RINO like John Mcain, or the couple Rep. that actually voted for thi crap (((RINO = Republican In Name Only)))
Bush was a RINO too...
-Anubis
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Permalink Reply by Dilyn Corner on
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Bush was a democrat in disguise. Except he sucked at that too :P
And I'm only the way I am because my parents are both uber republicans *gags*. If it weren't for them, I'd probably not be saying this stuff right now O_o
Hopefully we can get these two parties cleaned up. They're just full of corruption and stuff. Ruins the whole system.
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Permalink Reply by Dan on -
You will be seeing a lot more of this in the next 3 1/2 years. And they claimed Bush had the trained monkeys! I think the Democratic party has evolved almost overnight into the Liberal/Socialist party. There are good conservative Democrats that do not go along with everything, but they do not number enough to make an overall difference.
Dan
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Permalink Reply by DellMan94 on -
At least the good thing is that this will be in 2012 so we can throw them all out and get a congress and president that would want to repeal this crap
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Permalink Reply by Pedro Remedios on -
What president you gonna get after this? McCain and Palin? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Permalink Reply by Tyler Brown on -
Who says it was gonna be McCain or Palin.
Why not Ron Paul? Or maybe somebody younger who has the same beliefs as Ron Paul, such as his son Rand Paul.
Or maybe somebody from the Libertarian party.
Or maybe the Constitution Party
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Permalink Reply by Captain Freaking Magic on -
He named his son Rand? Jesus Christ.
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Permalink Reply by Dan on
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Somebody will step up to the plate, and YES, I would take Palin over this bozo in heartbeat. There are at least two other names that ran before that I would throw in with.
Dan
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Permalink Reply by Matt DeFazio on -
One sentence in, and I'm already disagreeing with one of your points.
There is such a thing as global warming. The Earth's atmosphere follows a natural cycle of cooling and warming, hence the multiple ice ages in our planet's past.
We as humans are doing many things that add Carbon Dioxide to the atmosphere, and since CO2 basically acts as an insulator in our atmosphere, more heat is being trapped within our atmosphere due to more CO2 present.
The science has already proved it - Global Warming exists.
As for the rest of your points, hey, I'm 15. I'm not to keen on a lot of this cap and trade stuff. :P
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