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Man how thing's have improved, the most dramatic improvement i have seen is CPU performances.

AMD's most powerfulest line being the AMD Opteron Hexa-core Models.
But also, amd has Confirmed, this was a few months back, that 6-core AMD Phenom II X6 Hex-Core Processors are on their way.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/its_official_amd_confirms_hex...
The biggest surprise to me is the backwards compatibility with AM3, and AM2+ boards.
Meaning the CPU will likely already be supported in current motherboard's that we have.


Though their certainly going to be behind intel once again for the consumer market.
However AMD as always generally rocks the server market with the powerful AMD Opteron Line already having six core and 12 core models.

i'm excited...even though i use a core i7 940 on an X58 motherboard i am assured compatibility with Intel's next Lines such as the Nehalem..Blah did i spell it right?
God. lol.

Is anyone else excited about MORE CORES?
Or just the coming 32NM jump. Intel and AMD will be making.
Personally, i have seen people run 65NM 3Ghz Dual cores on a gaming rig setup and they are extremely happy.

It's crazy how thing's have improved.

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I am both an Intel and AMD fan, that is great news. Now looks like both companies have six core processors. I have been jumping for joy since September:
http://geeks.pirillo.com/forum/topics/who-here-is-interested-in-and
I love all this new technology, now just wish I could afford some. :)

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Making USE of all those cores is yet another issue. And, games do not benefit...yet.

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I keep trying to tell people this but some folk just don't listen lol. They think more is better and don't understand that the software has to be able to support the hardware or it's just wasted! I see people with Core i7's at 4.8GHz, 12GB of RAM and tripple SLI 280's and then they whine that their frames are "only 100fps", then you see someone with a decent top end Dual Core and a single good GPU with 4GB of RAM getting the same performance lol. These "uber gaming rigs" are more workstations than gaming rigs seeing as most software that uses even half that potential power is for media creation and NOT games!

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Amen dood im so with u , i dont see the point in upgrading to the i7 yet when games still arent utilizing 2 or 4 threads nvm 8

p.s i know my spelling and grammar is atrocious

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Least you spelled grammar right.

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more cores is always nice but the programming isn't keeping up with the potential boost of newer processor designs :(

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I see absolutely no use at all for a six core chip for a home or business user, or a gamer........period. No software is written that even fully utilizes a dual core, let alone a quad or a hex. I'm personally buying a mid range quad for my next build, and will probably keep the same setup for the next 3-4 years as I only do full builds that often as i actually know how to do my research and optimize my stuff. The only reason I'm going with a quad is for the virtualization capabilities. But even me being an uber nerd knows that a six core chip is f*cking pointless right now.

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Agreed, mostly. There is a use, but as you say not for the home or business user or gamers. But that depends on what kind of business. I'm guessing you mean admin stuff like Word processing and stuff.

As a workstation machine, hex is great, especially because most "Pro Apps" are multithreaded and optimised for parallel programming, more so with Snow Leopard, so when we start seeing the Core i9 based Mac Pro's early next year with software that takes advantage of all this with Grand Central Dispatch, and all these other apps that piggy back the API we'll see a massive performance boost for even more basic stuff.

Sadly the Windows world is largely in the past because there isn't really much incentive to make multithreaded apps like on the Mac. If Microsoft were to add a framework within .Net to do a similar thing to GCD that any developer could piggy back instead of having to write their own code to do it then we'll start seeing some impressive speed bumps accross the board. I'd say we'll have to wait for Windows 8 before that becomes a reality though unless they can work out a way to simply add it to .Net and enable it with a Service Pack (although with the work involved there I can't see that happening).

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I was mainly referring to everyday business use, not data crunching intensive apps like you demonstrated. I do see the potential in that type of software, but as far as the private sector customer base, I don't see any use for anything over a quad for the next few years.

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lol all good points.

I see a similiar gaming performance VIA-the CPU with my MAC mini with the 3ghz Dual core, versus my windows PC with the 3.6ghz core i7 940..only because of software though.....thats cpu wize, my graphics in the i7 rig rape the mini. Mind you their just advancing their technology, as far as AMD is concerned they have 12-core Server processors. 6-Cores doesn't surprise me when Intel already has an 8-Core Nehalem available iN MacPro towers like chris's But this will soon be available to any computer, and those who want it.

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I am still going to buy one and overclock the @#*& out of it. especially if I can use it in my AM3 board.

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I always see amd comming up with new chips that are better then intels then intel refines their own chips and makes them better in my opinion in the long run regardless of that statement I am truly an AMD fan.

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