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True. But over time, those "religious morals", such as not murdering people, respect the people around you, etc., etc. That type of stuff, has become COMMON SENSE, no matter religion or no religion.

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We probably have all of the right answers in here already somewhere. I hope this is a small voice of reason. This post appears to have been responded to by many. I was raised in two different religeous fronts in my home. From what I have learned of the wars caused, the misery of the Saturdays I spent with one grandparent at Church, and then Sundays with the other, many weekends as a kid were lost to these whole days spent worshipping something I never understood, nor did I want to.
That in of itself is what I believe to be wrong with most all of them. There seems to be this inate need for people to force their beliefs on others, which in of itself is counterproductive. I personally have no problem with any religeon on it's own. They all bring peace to many people. That is important. What ever gets you there. What ever works for you. If your inner peace comes from religeon and it's belief system, then great! Hopefully you are at great peace with yourself and those around you.
Just don't approach me and try to make me feel like I have to join, agree or anything else. If I am speaking with you, spending time with you,, I promise it has nothing remote to do with your belief system. It is you the person I am interested in.
Ok, I'm done now.. Whew!!

Excellent post!

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I find it hard to believe that people do not believe in God. However, to each his own. I am like Renderedcook. Never will I impose my beliefs on anyone.

It is my feeling that believes have a place in people's life. Like he said, it bring comfort to a lot of people.

Having been raised in the Baptist Church where everything was a sin and growing up thinking that if I didn't ask for forgiven before I closed my eyes at night, that I would go to hell, I am not much on going to church anymore.

I took my sons to church when they were home, but the decision as to what they wanted to believe was left up to them. I never forced it on them.

With that said, that does not mean that I do not have a spiritual life because I have a very strong one. One that bring me joy, peace of mind, happiness and a desire to be a better woman each day of my life.

Not just for me but those people around me that I come in contact with each day. If we are better people, we can say better things to others. Hopefully, this will help them in some small way.

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I couldn't care less about what people believe... a belief is merely belief and anyone can have one. I do, however, care passionately about the danger of organized religion within my own country and in world politics.

Religion sets it's mind upon and decides its path according to dogmatic and quite often baseless principles. When it is allowed to interfere with, or even worse, when it is allowed to replace sound reasoning for setting government policy or deciding law it clearly exposes itself as the cause that results in bad governance.

The founders of the United States recognized this fact and, although the greatest number of them were themselves religious they stood on the side of cool and calculated reason. The wall of separation between church and state that Thomas Jefferson spoke of was constructed and well respected by all for the first one hundred years of American history before poorer political principles began to erode it.

The time has come to realize that the erosive process must come to an end and the damages must be repaired in order to once again have a government that stands safely apart from all notions of governing according to faith.

If you'd like to live in an Iran-like country, move to Iran. If not, stay here, believe whatever you'd like but join the secular movement which stands for the constitution above all gods rather than any idea of our country under God.

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Holy smokes, this is a loaded question. I'll try to make it simple. The first 35 years of my life I didn't believe in much of anything except there was no God, or he was some unknown obscure diety nobody knew, I thought Darwinism and the "Big Bang Theory" were the real explanations for life. I used drugs, drank accessivley, I was a Viet Nam Vet, I would just as soon shoot you as look at you. My Mom was my biggest influence of my life, she told me some of the cool stuff that was going on in her church, I was so lost and lonely I figured why not check it out, we were going to have a baby and I knew we had to clean up our act to make decent parents, so I went to her church, Assembly of God, some people still today would call them "Holy Rollers". They welcomed me with open arms, made me feel like I was a long lost brother, I loved the frank honesty, they were REAL people. They gave me no pressure, I was a bit indifferent at first but the more I went the more I became to understand it, the more I wanted it, it snowballed. One day my wife started to come with me, together we were "Born Again", this is when things REALLY began to happen. All the bonds of alcohol and drugs fell away, we had no desire to do them anymore, we were able to get educated in the ways of the lord, and become decent loving people and good parents. I have witnessed stunning miracles from the power of our God. This is what is called "Christian", not the ones that the media portrays, and leftists call them war mongers, they are totally wrong. That was 25 years ago, and my kids are living and wonderful proof of this change on my life. Someday I'll post the whole story here on Geeks.

Dan 'J5'

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That's quite a nice story but it assumes something incorrectly. Your group of "holy rollers" are more than likely very good people and that's a given; but, any group of people, no matter how nice they are or how pleasant they appear or how large their numbers have grown, can share a wrong opinion. In this case, the opinion is an assumption that their shared religious beliefs are so unquestionably right everyone must follow them...

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Ok, there is some thing I want to know, all those out there that are bashing religion, saying it is stupid, people who follow it lead shallow lives, religion hold people back, etc...Especially those that say we are mean evil people (I am a Catholic btw)...How many of you have actually attended a mass on a Sunday at a nice church? I am not talking about a church w/ a rev. like rev. wright. Honestly how many of you have?????

-Anubis

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I am a recovering Catholic...I have not practiced Catholicism since I was 17 yrs old and was able to make my own choices. My relationship with my God or Goddesses is not a topic that I speak on very often. Its a personal choice to decide if they want to believe in religion or not. With that being said I will now step down from my soap box and get back to Geek discussions!!!

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Hmph... to start off- atheism is a lack of belief in a god. Atheism isn't a religion (or faith if you will) because the central idea of atheism is scepticism. One cannot claim to know that there is an omnipotent creator without meeting him, shaking his hand and saying "Hello. So you're God, huh? I'm the Doctor." or some such thing. On another note atheist's "belief" is different from, say, Christian belief with a capitol "B". They (atheists) have, in their lifetimes, found certain things to be true through a process of observations and varifications. This system is applied to most every aspect of an atheist's life for him or her to discern truth in situations of ambiguous validity. Christians belief is, in effect, a baseless trust in an unverifiable creator. Naturally, the two are starkly opposed to one another. I, personally, am an atheist because, well, I like to know things... you know?

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I wish I could be the first post on page 28 lol.

1. I'm Agnostic.
2. I don't presume to know if there is a God or not.
3. I respect religion because it helps people be better people.
4. I respect good people regardless of religion, because when you do something good, I don't think it's God doing something good through you: It's you being a good person because you're a good person.
5. I am open to a God showing me he's a god and believing in him.
6. I am open to proof that there is no god, and believing in it.

7. There is no "Logical" approach to religion, it's about belief. Logic is subjective.

8. I do not respect any member of a religion saying I'm a heretic.
9. I do not respect any Atheist thinking that anyone who isn't Atheist is "ignorant", because thinking that is ignorant.

10. A short dialog.

Hypocrite John: "I believe that there is no god."
Person walking in the Street: "I believe that there is a god."
HJ: "Your belief is wrong, and mine is right. You are ignorant because you cannot 'Prove' the existence of god."
Person: "Well, you can't prove that there isn't a god. Both of our beliefs are --BELIEFS--, hence unproven as of yet."
HJ: "My logic doesn't understand your logic. You are ignorant."

The end.

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Catholic from birth and believe everything that God teachs through the Catholic church even though i may not understand it 100% because of the human mnd being a puny speck comapre to the mind of God.

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Methodist. BUT! I haven't been to Church in 4+ years. I believe in God, Jesus, Heaven, Hell and what not. That if I do good, I'm going to Heaven. Then one day I'll believe in reincarnation, nothing will happen, or something completely different. Either way, I believe in God. That's all that matters to me. Religion isn't a big deal for me. You're religious? Great. You're not? Great. As long as you don't make me mad, we're good.

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