Well, I remember back in the 60s the motto was 'never trust anyone over 30'. Now that *I'm* in my 60s (67), it seems to have changed to 'don't trust anyone under 60'. (Well, 50. I've gotta trust my wife! But notice where that still leaves everyone who has so far responded!) Still, you've gotta hand it to you younger guys: 'geek' sounds a lot better to me than 'nerd', which is what we were called when geeks hadn't yet been born.